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What? Can they just look if they fetched certain documents/conversations and feeded them into the training loop?

You seem to be confusing context-fetching with training.

Can someone remind me why we need autonomous cars? What's wrong with paying someone to drive?

Autonomous cars is an inefficient solution anyway, I don't see how it benefits the rider.


Yeah sure!

In theory they should be cheaper one day because you don't need to pay someone to drive. This means you can use them in situations where for cost reasons you would have driven yourself - e.g. for long journeys, in the countryside, for commuting etc.

Getting people out of their own cars and into autonomous cars is better for several reasons:

1. We need to own fewer cars collectively, which is better for the environment.

2. Don't need to waste a ton of space on car parks.

3. It's safer (at least for Waymo). Not just for occupants but also for pedestrians and cyclists.

Having a cheap option for last mile travel also makes trains more attractive.

All of this of course rests on them actually ending up cheap, which hasn't been the case so far but we'll see.


They won't be cheap until there's competition to drive down the price, which will otherwise be as high as possible to justify the initial investments. It's only a matter of time, but likely on the scale of decades.

But I wanted to add on the future benefits front - as more vehicles on the road become autonomous, they could communicate with each other and reduce the buffer distances between them, allowing for faster travel and improved saturation while still being safe.


It won't be cheaper.

1. If auto cars will be cheap, every one will use them, and none will use public transportation.

2. Oh yeah, we would just waste space outside the city.

3. Right now it's not safer. It will probably drive at the speed of 25% less than the limit, sure than it might be safer.


1. People already don't use public transport in 99% of the world. In any case I don't see why that is relevant to the price.

2. Which is vastly better than wasting it in cities. And also no we wouldn't. Autonomous cars would be in use way more of the time than normal cars so we'll need fewer of them and therefore less parking space.

3. RTFA.


First!

I thought it was always about us being the RL. We pay less because they use our usage to train their models.

It's already expensive, though they still profit. Let's see if this makes it more expensive, since RAM/storage is much harder to come by these days.

That data and that address changes, and the logic changes.

Why should the address and logic change, when both are defined by hardware ?

The firmware sometimes wants more data, different places to set the data, so on. The firmware changes, and you gotta adapt the driver to it. Sometimes it's a complete overhaul.

I am still not sure why does OS has to be aware of this, if anything, only the HAL should be aware of this FW version to have correct behavior.

Every major OS already has this HAL layer, we just need to decide/design a generic and hope that every player will use it.


Well, they will get more people buying MacBooks, though they won't really use their services.

What makes Apple valuable is precisely its full vertical integration. Nobody else does it at that scale except maybe Sony for consoles and Microsoft but both don't have the same usage coverage and thus integration.

It wouldn't be economically rational for Apple to bring down its own moat.


Apple isn't Sony. They make an arm and a leg on their hardware.

When they switched to x86, it didn't take long for them to release Boot Camp, so they could take Windows users' money, too.


They also make an arm and a leg on services, which is why its not in their interest to make it so you cant use them.

It's not like users will just stop using the services. Rather Linux users will start considering MacBook as a potential laptop to buy.

How could that possibly disrupt their Software/Services infra?


Of course they will. Why would you pay for icloud storage you cant use?

That statement is true for the users that both bought and didn't buy a Macbook (with Linux support). The difference is, the one who bought has paid money for the Macbook.

I am not an Apple user. Do you _have_ to pay for iCloud if you buy the laptop? I don't think so.


Windows dual boot meant millions of potential switchers, if not for anything else, as a list item to tell them "you could still dual boot".

Asahi-on-Mac would bring in irrelevant numbers for a company of Apple's size.


They could also dual boot windows for Arm. Just like before. Assuming Apple did the boot camp thing again

People whom want Linux on Macs obviously already don't want to be put into Apple's ecosystem.

I don't have numbers on that but I bet purchase of brand new MacOS compatible devices is 99% or more from people who already have at least one or more other Apple devices.

Sure they are probably thousands if not millions of (in the positive sense) nerds and geeks posting on HN about buying a Mac first hand, not second hand, solely to put Linux on it but even then would be a drop in the ocean compared to the remained sales.

Still if you have numbers on that I'd love to be wrong about it.


They don't care about people buying MacBooks. They want you in their ecosystem buying i-everything.

Folks are much better supporting Linux and BSD OEMs than buying Apple than then trying to run Linux on their devices.

I do wonder if the margin on Mac isn’t that high vs the price and the services (iCloud etc) make up for that.

Amazon do the same with the fire.


We know that the Mac has fine margins.

It seems like youtube-dl/yt-dlp survived. t

different things: this is an online service, not downloadable software.

That's because they code their AI tool with AI so they just didn't notice what it added and they forgot about it.

So what will happen in 18 months?

AGI-level model will be 18 months away in 18 months. (Well, at least according to the commenter above you)

Nothing ever happens. You'll still jot down Java endpoint

We fight the war, of course.

We fight the clankers.

I wish something would finally happen, because I'm really tired of pretending I care about this stuff at work at this point

Accelerationism can be a sort of doomerism, when you think about it.

Very true, unfortunately it is just about repeating something for long enough so you micro agree on certain things and adopt a new "normal" and that volume of info is getting out of hand

The AGI goal posts move

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