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> "Marxism has been tried, and has failed, in so many places with such bloody results."

This isn't Marxism, that's a lazy comparison. At its core, Marxism is about shared access to the means of production. Basic income has nothing to do with changing who owns the means of production (or at least, it could mean that, but it doesn't have to mean that).

Furthermore, whilst Marx had some interesting ideas, he also had at least one dangerously bad one. I'm referring to the dictatorship of the proletariat...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletaria...

... I'd argue that no attempt to achieve communism at a state level has ever got past that stage, because the path from a society controlled by power to a true communist society is beyond the imagination of many.

That said, forms of socialism that don't rely on a dictatorial intermediary stage do exist, and just because one form of socialism is misguided doesn't mean they are all misguided.



Actually, at its core Marxism is about this motto: (take) from each according to his ability, (give) to each according to his needs. The abolition of private property and other horrors of Communist implementations are simply means to that redistributive goal. The notion of Basic Income is rooted in Socialist theories intended to implement the vision of Marx and Engels.


regarding: "Actually, at its core Marxism is about this motto: (take) from each according to his ability, (give) to each according to his needs."

In a communist society there is no state to "take" or "give" in that way.

Nor is Marx's thought or marxism "about [that] motto" "at its core".

If you have arguments to make about a basic income, can you please make them without so badly misrepresenting the thought of others?

I happen to agree that a UBI is silly, bad goal but I'm offended at how falsely Marx is being described here.




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