> how much extra code there is. It's just frustrating, and I don't feel like I'm getting a unique benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust)
Actually you are getting a benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) - the libraries. Verbose syntax is less complex in regard to writing the code, so more developers write the code. I have no scientific evidence to provide about the fact, but observations speak for themselves. Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from.
> Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from.
Rust was stabilized last year, while Go was released six years ago. It is simply wrong to say that Go has a larger quantity of libraries because it is more verbose. IMHO the Rust ecosystem is surprisingly comprehensive for a language its age.
No benefit over F# is what I mean - nothing about .NET requires C# to be verbose. With Rust, there's zero alternative that'll have the same guarantees and performance. So I can put up with the verbosity.
Actually you are getting a benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) - the libraries. Verbose syntax is less complex in regard to writing the code, so more developers write the code. I have no scientific evidence to provide about the fact, but observations speak for themselves. Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from.