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"They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" Take a look[1] you may have been stranded on an Island the last 2 years and perhaps you did not hear what Trump have said.

Now, not all Trump supporters are racists (maybe Thiel isn't? who knows!), but all of them are telling us implicitly that racism and bigotry are not deal breakers.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zvOZ17eSE



Trump said that illegal immigrants are "rapists and murderers and some good people", "not their best people". You can disagree strongly with Trump's claims about what motivates illegal immigration, but Trump's stated view is not racist: he discriminated between two groups within a single race, and did not distinguish between races.


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That is so wrong, a better quote would be:

"The illegal French immigrants are ignorant assholes, except for some of them".

The key differences are - Not all, the illegal immigrants. And Mexican, like French is a Nationality and not a race.


The alt-right gained most of it's momentum during Trump's campaign. You think that's a coincidence? And this, "it's a nationality not a race' is hardly a good reason to denigrate an entire people.


People keep saying he denigrated all mexicans... He didn't, he denigrated illegal immigrants. Unless you are implying all Mexicans are illegal immigrants?

I don't even like trump but this kind of nonsense makes me defend him.


And when he said that judge couldn't be impartial due to his ethnic background, who was he denigrating?


That's not because the judge is Mexican, that's because the judge is human and a huge propaganda machine was working against Trump telling everyone that he hates the judges culture.

I don't know how impartial I would be if i thought I was ruling against a hardcore racist who hates my culture.


Well, I hope you're not a Judge then, eh? ;-) (You're supposed to recuse yourself in a situation like that, you know.)

Even if he was trying to impugn human nature and not Mexicans, he's still saying that race trumps Justice (in the person of the Judge.) That's not the values I want my President to treat as normal, because it effectively promotes racialism.

Certainly his election has already emboldened racists to make physical and verbal attacks across the country. Do I care if he's really racist or not?


Fair enough, still more lenient than the average leftist view that omits the "except for some of them".


Sure buddy, sure.


Yeah right, pal.


Variations of that statement are commonly being written or voiced in the mainstream media post election. So apparently it does do well. Van Jones, on national TV, called it "whitelash" and openly described Trump's election as a racist response to Obama's Presidency. The post election has been one mainstream media tirade after another about the racist white voters.


Note that this Trump (mis)quote is in response to asking where Thiel says anything that supports bigotry.


Corrected now, unless I didn't hear right when he refers to Mexico sending people over and then "they are rapists" perhaps his subject changed and he was referring to Aliens?


He is, at least technically, making a more sophisticated argument. I'll rephrase it to make that reading clear:

"Like all countries, Mexico has both great people and rapists/murderers. Unfortunately, the latter group is overrepresented among those illegally in this country."

That's (technically) the point he's making, and it's (technically) not racist.


Can you refute the statistical assertion Trump is making in that statement?


> "They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers"

Actually "they’re not sending their best" explicitly doesn't mean "Mexicans" (i.e all/any Mexicans). As such, that should be:

> "They(some Mexicans) are rapists and murderers"

http://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-...


Can you tell me which specific Mexicans he was talking about?


Specifically the rapists.




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