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> go fuck yourself.

A spirited defense of Detroit is certainly welcome, but we ban accounts that resort to personal attack. Would you please not post like this here?


Seconding this. I have a bunch of friends who live in Detroit. It's not Robocop World over there.


> From a Detroiter to one who clearly has never been here, kindly go fuck yourself.

I have been to Detroit. It was pretty low energy, and that was some years ago (six?). Since then the crime has risen and the population and economic activity have declined. The mere fact that some buildings are being built in some places does not indicate that things are getting much better.

I understand the Michigander pride, but I don't think Detroit compares favourably to almost any other decent city in North America. I like the character of Detroit, but I'm not going to pretend it's booming. It can get better, and a broken city presents a lot of opportunity that a functioning city does not, but that doesn't make it any less broken in the moment.

Detroit is a city where about one in two thousand people are murdered every year, nearly nine times the U.S. average. A city where ~1.4 per thousand women are raped every year, about twice the national average. This is, in relative terms, not a pleasant or safe place to live.

Michigan in general is actually about on par with the national median, Detroit has suffered especially harshly.




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