Appreciation comes with understanding, there is not much I can do about that for you. I'm not too good at math (I know a lot of tricks to use a computer to work around my lack of math skills though ;) ), so plenty of the beauty of math is hidden from me too, but the root of it for me is that math is an absolute, something that stands all by itself and that does not need a physical universe to manifest itself in order to be 'true', even though some of the mathematical constants do seem to be rooted in our physical environment.

(pi for instance).

I don't like the 'I am quite dumb' assessment you give yourself, everybody is born 'dumb', it's those that spend the time to educate themselves that rise above that and you seem to be willing to do so.

Everybody, no matter at what level of knowledge they currently reside has the power and the potential to rise above that level, maybe not much, but you can always improve.

I'd say work through some of the stuff mentioned in that thread and see if it helps you to gain understanding, you're almost certain to pick up something and that in return should help with your other problem, the appreciation.

Best of luck with all this, think of it as enjoying the journey, not necessarily to only enjoy it all upon reaching a destination.

Thank you for replying! It's always awesome to talk to you.

>>>I don't like the 'I am quite dumb' assessment you give yourself, everybody is born 'dumb', it's those that spend the time to educate themselves that rise above that and you seem to be willing to do so.<<<

You're right I am really sorry. It's just that old habits and learned helplessness dies hard.