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It really bothers me how, over the last 10-15 years, caffeine has gone from something people use to jump-start their day to some kind of... fad drug. People brag about how many cups of coffee they inhale every day, how many liters of soda they can drink in one sitting, how many bottles of bawls they have on a shelf, or how many cans of red bull they need to chug to stay awake after their all-nighters, but even worse than that is how many people just acknowledge this as a normal thing. Especially among geeks and gamers.

Edit: For example, quotes like this: "It's an efficiency product. I'm talking about improving endurance, concentration, reaction time, speed, vigilance, and emotional status. Taste is of no importance whatsoever."

He makes it very clear that he doesn't think of it as a soft drink, but as a performance-enhancing drug. Yet people are out there pounding it because it's "cool."



Also the evidence that caffeine is a cognitive enhancer isn't very good. It seems that the boost people feel from a cup of coffee is just the relief from the symptoms of coffee withdrawl. Quote

> "That alertness you feel is you getting back to normal, rather than to an above normal level.

BBC Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6422279.stm

Podcast: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/allinthemind/stories/2010/3073994.h...

I stopped drinking coffee after learning about this but I still drink black tea.


Newsflash: black tea is chock full of caffeine.


I know, but I don't seem to have the same physical reaction to it


The trend to use caffeine like a drug is particularly concerning amongst young people.

I volunteer with a local youth group, and recently some of them have started downing a couple of Red Bulls (or more likely a cheap clone) before arriving. The effect it has on them is ridiculous - kids who usually aren't too much trouble become completely uncontrollable. A bit of running about at that age is healthy, but the excess energy means they spend literally 3 hours charging around the place, with arguments far more likely to happen because they're wired.

I'm not generally one for regulation of substances which don't harm other people, but I think there at least needs to be some publicity given to the fact that saturating yourself with caffeine and other additives is really bad for your heart.


Really? I noticed a different trend -- The Green Tea Fad. More and more people talking about how they no longer drink coffee, because it contains the most dangerous drug in the history of mankind -- caffeine!


Green tea has a lot of caffeine too.


For reference:

http://www.stashtea.com/caffeine+and+tea.aspx

Not that much really.


Yes, but "green" and "tea" make it sound a lot healthier. It's every marketer's dream come true.


"But it's green!"


What ever happened to good, old amphetamines?

Nothing beats a straight 36-hour coding session, and the one week of solid sleep that follows.


You're in good company with Paul Erdős, one of the most prolific mathematicians of the 1900s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s

After 1971 he also took amphetamines, despite the concern of his friends, one of whom (Ron Graham) bet him $500 that he could not stop taking the drug for a month.[12] Erdős won the bet, but complained that during his abstinence mathematics had been set back by a month: "Before, when I looked at a piece of blank paper my mind was filled with ideas. Now all I see is a blank piece of paper." After he won the bet, he promptly resumed his amphetamine use.


Didn't he 'invent' airbnb?

[UPDATE]

I find it interesting coffee was his 'gateway' drug and self-dosed amphetamine usage allowed him to perform at a higher level. In that sense, amphetamine usage is much better than caffeine.

He was not addicted to amphetamines. Most coffee drinkers are addicted to caffeine. How many caffeine addicts would go a month without caffeine for $500?


$500? that's what, a half-day bill rate for most mid range USian computer professionals? If you believe you are deriving much productivity benefit from caffeine at all, that doesn't seem like a very good deal.

I'm just saying, the fact that someone won't give up a drug they perceive to enhance productivity for a small amount of money is not evidence that it is addictive; it could also be a rational decision (e.g. I believe I am giving up more than $500 worth of additional productivity if I don't use caffeine)

I would be really interested in the results of (and even willing to participate in) a properly controlled study that measured the effects of caffeine on productivity. But measuring actual productivity is /very hard/ which is why I've gotta keep using words like 'perceived productivity'


It also probably wasn't that much to Paul Erdos, either. The point was in "proving" that he wasn't an addict, not winning a $500 bet.


I'm hooked on caffeine and cigarettes, I'd give up both for a month for $500 easy!


How much to you spend on cigarettes and caffeine per month?


He was not physically dependent on amphetamines. Whether he was addicted is a completely different question.


Now they call it Ritalin.


Aint amphetamine. There's simply no replacement for 100% dextroamphetamine and Ritalinheads are getting peddled the wrong substance.


The best shit ever. I feel like God when i take that pill


A lot of people assume there's s lot of caffeine in Red Bull. There is some, but the "active ingredient" is taurine.


I'd wager that it's actually sugar. Take a high dose of supplemental taurine and let me know if you feel much.


why does it bother you? Even if it only has a placebo effect on people - why is that such a big deal? It doesn't do a lot of harm. Chill


And then there is only a small step to start taking speed. Legal or illegal...




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