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I understand the æsthetic decision, but there is no reason why Apple couldn't have made the wire that runs from the brick to your laptop detachable. That way I could actually replace it for a reasonable amount.


This. Over the past five years I have had to replace four Apple power adapters. Two caught on fire, one just stopped working, and one only worked when I duct taped it to death. They replaced all but one under warranty. But when I asked the Apple Genius in SoHo if this "whole catching on fire thing" happened often, he didn't say no. He just told me he wasn't allowed to answer that.


Unfortunately, I am compelled to share the same experience here. And being the "computer guy" for friends and family, I have seen the same kind of bad power adapters over and over. I thought that I was crazy or very unlucky because everyone tells me how great Apple products are.

And the replacements are quite expensive compared to the competition (I see mostly Dell and Lenovo, to be honest, no idea for the other ones).


I've replaced 3 in the past 2 years. All have melted right around the part that goes into the laptop. It has gotten to the point where I won't even leave it plugged in unless I am in the room.


Yep. You're describing pretty much what happened. It's always a nice when you get sparks and smoke though. :-)


I've had one catch on fire on my couch, and another melt at the mag-connection (whatever it's called). Cannot be a fluke.


Confirmed. Two fires here, also.

One with the RCA/headphone power and one with the magnetic connector.


Hm, well, just to provide one counter example, haven't had a bad adapter in 8 years and half a dozen apple laptops. Not saying it doesn't happen of course :)


Yeah, over ten years and five laptops between myself and my partner, and maybe seven or eight power adapters (we've had spare adapters for some of our laptops), we haven't had any problems with fires, sparks, etc. As the parent said, though, "Not saying it doesn't happen"- just not to us, apparently.

I will say, however, that the MagSafe design, even lacking strain reducers as discussed by the OP, has proven its value on more than one occasion. Besides the obvious advantages (i.e., tripping over the cord no longer sends one's laptop flying, nor does it cause catastrophic damage to the power port), I'm personally fond of the fact that you can step on the adapter all day long without damaging it. We had to replace an adapter once back in the day after accidentally stepping on the little round connector part, and bending it irreparably out of shape.


Detachable magsafe cables would also make it easier for third parties to sell power adapters, which is almost certainly why Apple power bricks are alone among major manufacturers in not splitting things this way.


Just put the same kind of DRM they put in the cable on the other side to auth with the brick.


They already have that. It can cause problems when the DRM circuitry screws up inside the laptop and causes the brick or the laptop to refuse to charge. It just makes things more unreliable.


Verifying that something on the other end is an authorised part is not digital rights management and has nothing to do with it. It is simply lock-in.


>I understand the aesthetic decision, but there is no reason why Apple couldn't have made the wire that runs from the brick to your laptop detachable.

A detachable wire would violate Apple's aesthetic; thus, you can't detach it. You answer your own question.

Does Apple not replace that for free like they do the iPhone/iPod chargers?


I've had mine replaced for free, but only after being accused by the 'Genius' of 'doing it wrong' by wrapping my cable around the provided tabs.


The proper technique is ridiculously subtle. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1630 That support article is a spiritual ancestor of the Antennagate defense press event.


It's not that subtle. Just don't try to wrap it really tight, which would put a constant strain on the wire where it enters the brick that would last until you completely unwind the cord again.

Frankly, everything in that document just looks like common sense.


The part that goes to the wall is detachable. What about making the other side detachable violates the aesthetic? Or am I thinking of something else?


Surely the mag-safe cables shouldn't get so damaged, because the cable detaches from the laptop under significant strain?

In terms of mag-safe on iOS devices, I guess it's not feasible due to it transmitting data.


They've changed the design from a plug that attaches perpendicularly into the laptop (and has a serious strain point that is not adequately engineered around) to one that plugs in "parallel". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagSafe

This likely prevents strain by removing the probability that the cable is pulled at the strain point. It also looks cooler.

Only downside is that it doesn't untether easily; it's that the selling point of MagSafe?


I got my macbook pro last november with the new connector. The MagSafe connector is already broken. I attach/detach it maybe 3 times a day.

Seeing everyone I know that has a macbook have his/her adapter fail, not getting a replacement and then having to buy a new one for 80 EUR I took extra care. Still the cable broke inside the connector!

I've never had this problem with any other device or notebook. Seriously, power adapters should be simple and just work - except they don't for macbooks.


It's the plastic surrounding the cable as it connects to the magsafe magnetic connector that causes the problem.



The strain to break the bond of the magnet is much more than the strain needed to bend the cable to an angle that will (over time) damage the wire.

Ios transfers should prepared for a disconnection anyway, it is usb, plus power failures could take the host offline.


Apple hasn't charged me for either of the replacements I've gotten. If they're willing to absorb that cost, who am I to complain about how high the cost is?




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