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I’ve tested this on iPhone 14 Pro Max, 13 Pro Max, and 12 Pro Max. Using iOS 16.4 and 16.5 beta, I’m unable to replicate this.

AT&T 54.0.1

Managed Networks: AT&T Wi-Fi Passpoint, attwifi

Verizon 54.0.1

Managed Networks: PrivateMobileWifi, VerizonWifi, VerizonWifiAccess

T-Mobile 54.1.0

Managed Networks: t-mobile

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I’ve tested the following scenarios

- confirm auto-join disabled, wait 10min, recheck and still disabled.

— confirm auto-join disabled, reboot, recheck and still disabled.

- confirm auto-join disabled, enable airplane mode, recheck and still disabled.

- confirm auto-join disabled, disable wifi, re-enable wifi, recheck and confirm still not auto-join enabled.

- confirm auto-join disabled, switch cellular data to alternate esim, switch back, confirm still not auto-join enabled.

At this point I feel there must be something different about your setup that’s non-standard in some way.

It’s slimey as hell that they get added automatically, but still very much possible to disable at least it seems.

Edit: “Wingman” and related variations never appear on either of my T-mobile devices.



Wow, thank you for your detailed post.

I have multiple iPhone 14 Pro Max, all 16.4

All on Xfinity Mobile 54.0.1

Yes, I know Comcast sucks but they are the only provider in my area for gigabit and they whitelabel Verizon mmWave 5G for a serious discount if you bundle with their internet (which I’m basically forced to use)

In my case, I disable auto join on all 9 managed networks and 5 of them are back to enabled before I’m done checking the list.


If you don't want the service, why did you buy it, even if the discount was 100%?


“The service” was cellphone service, there is no logical reason my phone OS should arbitrarily lock me out of wifi settings due to my cellular carrier.


Oh. By the way you called it out as "mmWave" I assumed this meant it was some sort of wide-area thing and not generic 5g coverage.


Ah, no it’s regular LTE/5G but also has the advantage of being 5G+ (mmWave symbol on iOS) so I get near-gig cellular speeds.




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