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Assuming this is all true, what then makes the Japanese Shinkansen economically viable?


They already have the land rights, favorable social environment for construction, more compliant population, less local/more federal legal zoning and land use power, more federal level direction to get things done, higher rate of engineers in population.

That CA is bad at all of those makes it expensive and hard

In addition to very low competence levels in gov't compared to Japan due to many factors. Sure Japan has financial corruption in construction but it's a known system and they build things treating it as a tax. In CA there are many more parties who all attempt to hold construction projects hostage.


Those factors aligned for the original Shinkansen when it was built in the sixties; now, not so much.

The maglev Chuo Shinkansen, originally meant to be finished by 2030 or so, has been stuck in limbo for several years now because the prefecture of Shizuoka refuses to issue the necessary permits.

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14718670


>less local/more federal legal zoning and land use power, more federal level direction to get things done,

Nitpick: this part isn't correct. There's no federal legal zoning or direction or anything federal at all. Japan doesn't have a federal government; like most countries, it has a unitary government. The US is unusual this way, along with Germany and Russia.

But otherwise, you're right. It's much easier to build stuff here for all those reasons.


Ah, thanks. My comment was based on this link which I share often on Japanese Zoning. http://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html

related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_land_law

Looking it up, I see you're right. They have national zoning laws but even there, things do seem to be getting more complicated.


That's a great blog post. As I understand it, the national law is just as described, with only 12 zones, but the localities have some latitude in how to apply the law and make some blanket restrictions about things like building height. For instance, Kyoto famously has very strict limits on building height, though this is biting them in the ass because it keeps them from creating enough density to get more tax money, and too much land is occupied by religious sites that don't pay any taxes at all, so the city is going bankrupt.


I expect one of the biggest factors is population density.

California has a land area of 165,000mi^2. Japan has a land area of 145,000mi^2.

California population is 39M. Japan population is 125M.


Most of the people in CA are in the bottom left. No need for bullet train to Arcata. Though to Vegas would probably be profitable.


Many people who ride it have one of various train passes that reduce the cost, or have a plan with work that covers it. I usually use a JR pass, it's pretty expensive without it.


Unfortunately the JR pass literally doubled in price in Oct 2023, it's now 50,000 yen for 7 days and makes no sense unless you're planning to speedrun the length of Japan and back.


Yep, it is not worth it anymore. I got mine for my trip at the end of the year on literally the last day it was on sale :). End of an era.


Note that 50,000 yen is $335. So that’s a ceiling on how much you’ll spend for 7 days of Shinkansen travel.


The distance between SF and LA (350 miles) is 50% greater than the distance between Tokyo and Kyoto (227 miles), making the time tradeoff favor trains to planes. The two cities are much bigger than SF and LA, so many more people travel between the two cities (85 million per year). Also Japan can build and maintain rail much cheaper than the US.




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