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have you tried asking chatgpt something even slightly controversial? chatgpt censors much more than deepseek does.

also deepseek is open-weights. there is nothing preventing you from doing a finetune that removes the censorship. they did that with llama2 back in the day.



> chatgpt censors much more than deepseek does

This is an outrageous claim with no evidence, as if there was any equivalence between government enforced propaganda and anything else. Look at the system prompts for DeepSeek and it’s even more clear.

Also: fine tuning is not relevant when what is deployed at scale brainwashes the masses through false and misleading responses.


refusal to answer "how do I make meth" shows ChatGPT is absolutely being similarly neutered, but I'm not aware of any numerical scores on what constitutes a numbered amount of censorship


I don't think the amount matters.

The enforcers identity is much more important.


why do you lie, it is blatantly obvious chatgpt censors a ton of things and has a bit of left-tilt too while trying hard to stay neutral.

If you think these tech companies are censoring all of this “just because” and instead of being completely torched by the media, and government who’ll use it as an excuse to take control of AI, then you’re sadly lying to yourself.

Think about it for a moment, why did Trump (and im not a trump supporter) re-appeal Biden’s AI Executive Order 2023 ? , what was in it ? , it is literally a propaganda enforcement article, written in sweet sounding, well meaning words.

It’s ok, no country is angel, even the american founding fathers would except americans to be critical of its government during moments, there’s no need for thinking that America = Good and China = Bad. We do have a ton of censorship in the “free world” too and it is government enforced, or else you wouldnt have seen so many platforms turn the tables on moderation, the moment trump got elected, the blessing for censorship directly comes from government.




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