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>leaders wax poetic about the mystery of God and then say 'so here is what God thinks you should do.' How could they know?

It is a fundamental requirement of the Catholic faith since at least 1870 that the Pope speaks god's will on matters of the church, and indeed is infallible when doing so.

I have a lot of complaints about post-catholic Christianities and how much they have fucked the US with things like biblical innerrancy and predestination and all the "Great awakenings" and the MILLIONS in literal cults to this very day because of that, but I CANNOT fault them for not liking this system and the clear and obvious BULLSHIT it participated in for centuries.



If you could please make your substantive points without fulminating, we (and the site guidelines - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) would appreciate it.


Papal infallibility is not invoked that often. Here’s an example, in section 4 (wherefore…) [0]

In particular papal infallibility was not involved in the Protestants’ complaints, and the response to their complaints (Trent) was a council and again has nothing to do with papal infallibility.

The pope was also an absolute monarch at the time, but protestants didn’t care about that aspect.

0: https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters...


I must confess that my knowledge of christian history from 300AD to 1800AD is what you can get from a few paragraphs in middle school social studies.

I was trying to allude to the indulgences with my "bullshit" but I failed.

I tend to focus more on the great awakenings and all the horrible things they led to in how they influenced America.

I thought Protestants were also at some point very against the way the Catholic faith focused on "here's what god meant" rather than letting people interpret the bible themselves? Papal infallibility is just a part of that.




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