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The USD doesn't frequently lose all or nearly all value as we see from cryptocoins. My $10 today will be worth $10 tomorrow barring nuclear war or an apocalypse.


And 1 bitcoin in your possession today will be worth 1 bitcoin in your possession tomorrow, barring a successful and very expensive attack on the network.

You have little assurance that the buying power of $10 today will be the buying power of $10 tomorrow. If the tariffs had gone through as initially advertised, that would certainly not have been the case.


This is only true to the extent that your debts are denominated in Bitcoin. Until people want it for purposes other than speculation what matters is the exchange rate because that’s what everyone uses for their expenses.


And anything beyond 3m you put into real estate, stocks, or bonds anyway. Real rates have mostly been positive; and if not, that's the result of an economy wide equilibrium process that can't be undone risklessly by some magic beans.


Sure but the USD has two order of magnitude more total value, and probably more than that in day to day usage.

So there's an implicit question there which apparently you and everyone else missed.


Why do you think the USD has so many orders of magnitude usage? Nobody missed the question, that was the point: for currencies, stability is what makes them useful. You don’t have an incentive to hoard dollars hoping they’ll go up in value, so you spend them and boost the economy. Other countries use dollars because they have the same benefit: I can write a contract with you saying what we’ll pay over the next year and be confident that neither of us is going to be widely inconvenienced by the kind of swings Bitcoin has.

Remember that guy who spent 100BTC on a pizza? It’s a funny story but that’s why nobody uses Bitcoin for normal transactions.


> Why do you think the USD has so many orders of magnitude usage? Nobody missed the question, that was the point: for currencies, stability is what makes them useful.

Hint: cause and effect. You did miss the point and still do probably.


Gotta love crypto people putting "looking smarter than you" over actually explaining what it is they mean. If you've got a point to make, don't just hint at it, say something and then we can have a discussion. This just makes you look petty and like you're only in it to stroke your own ego.


> Gotta love crypto people putting "looking smarter than you"

Oh I'm sorry, that was your shtick. Apologies!

Also, I'm not a crypto person, I made some gains and sold a long time ago. I just have to laugh that you think one pointing out that an argument is weak makes one a part of the opposite tribe.


Then maybe you should explain the point you're trying to make instead of just hinting at it?

I didn't even specify if I thought you were pro or anti crypto - I just find that most conversations around crypto are dominated by statements of "the other side of this just doesn't understand basic facts like I do" instead of actually stating what the facts are and how they apply to the situation that would help someone learn what's being discussed.

I may very well be the stupid one here, and you may be quite a bit smarter than me, but I don't know because I still don't know the point you're hinting at making.


Can you share the point you think people are missing?




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