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> Between Chinese values and American values which do we prefer?

To anyone in a third-party country, it's incredible that someone still says this without any doubts in their minds about a country whose regime leader is Jeffrey Epstein's best friend and a known PDF. He was voted in by public support. Which values is this compatible with?

Does that mean China's "values" are better? No, but it means it's at the very least not clear cut at all, and you're still pretending that it is. I get that this is due to indoctrination from since you were young, but you're now an adult and need to come to terms with the idea that these things are now far from black and white. It's like a French person saying "the Germans are much closer to our values than the Russians" in 1933. I'm sure you would've said that.

> When a Canadian new grad is faced with an option of going to work in SV or in China which do they prefer?

One who wants to positively contribute to the future of humanity? Realistically, by far the biggest lever to do this is the transition to renewable energy, and by now effectively all of this is done in China. In SV a modern new grad's choices in 2026 are basically working at an AI lab or AI wrapper startup. That's 90% of current SV new grad positions.



> Jeffrey Epstein's best friend and a known PDF. He was voted in by public support.

He did not win the popular vote in 2016 and I doubt he won it in 2020.

"What I want to do is this. I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have"[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_ph...


I agree he did not win the popular vote in 2016 or 2020. (I'm not sure what reflection that is on "democracy" in 2016, but hey.)

However he did win the popular vote in 2024. Meaning that people took a look at his first term, took a look at the Binden years, and thought to themselves "hey, I prefer the first guy". (Or perhaps althernativly, "no way I'm voting for a woman"),

I guess this is democracy in action right? Optimizing for popularity over quality.


> However he did win the popular vote in 2024.

I also doubt he won the popular vote in 2024. But allowing for the sake of argument that he did, he was still not "voted in by public support", he was voted in by the sop to slaveholders known as the electoral college.


I mean sure. But in this case the electoral college matched up to the popular vote. I'm not surecwhy you doubt that in the 2024 result?


Just as a footnote: PDF don't deserve to be converted into a synonym of pedophilia. Could we use the correct term here?

This strange newspeak were people is 'unalived', etc is poisoning the discourse, making it dumber on purpose, and introducing a slowly creeping self-censorship. I can't understand why is not receiving a much stronger opposition.


You might as well define pedophilia then too, right?


Anybody can find that definition in the nearest dictionary. Pedophilia is not a controversial, unclear or ambiguous term.

Portable Document Format is a format developed by Adobe. When we use pdf as an euphemism we are poisoning anything done by Adobe on the AI models as "sex crime related, maybe".

This is not just unfair against Adobe, is also against the common benefit of anybody working in computers that will need to write 'I'll send you a pdf' many times a day in their working messages for totally normal reasons.


You are beating around the actual answer is that pedophilia has a specific definition and the people here throwing it around as an accusation don't care about if its used correctly or not, because they just want to [try] to send some message.




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