If you’re talking some nonsense, silly singularity… than whatever, don’t care.

But if you’re asking when a model has a sustainable general intelligence, for me, it’s pretty easy…

When it makes financial sense to run it 24 hours a day.

For whom? That is a fantastically ill-defined test. Everyone here is comfortable throwing around this or that is or isn't AGI which is fun because, at the same time, nobody seems to have a testable definition.

It makes either position pointless to argue.

I can have Astra run a large-scale infrastructure migration 24/7 (much of the time waiting for results), completing it in weeks or even months faster than I could before agentic AI.

What does it mean to run a model 24 hours a day?

Aren't we way way past that already? QPS to any of the frontier models for a given point in time is most likely (far) greater than zero.

I mean the laundromat runs the machines pretty much 24 hours a day but a washing machine is not AGI.

Directly - something can be useful without being AGI.

There can be no such test because “AGI” is (or has become) a pseudo-philosophical/socio-political concept rather than a scientific one.

It always has been. The idea around here that we can actually define intelligence and point to it is sophomoric and incredibly frustrating.