I think it’s just literally anyone who sees your post and also has eyes.

hagbard_c · 2026-09-06T20:32:28

The same gesture was made by:

- Mamdani, who in contrast to Musk does mingle quite a lot in anti-Semite cirles

- Bernie Sanders, a Jew himself but that has never kept anyone from being called a nazi

- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, also often seen in anti-Semite circles

- Kamala Harris

- Elizabeth Warren, who later also supported nazi-tattoo candidate Graham Platner whom she called 'my type of man'

- Hillary Clinton

- ...and many others

Of course the legacy press has excuses for all these nazi-saluting individuals except for Musk, calling these photo's 'coincidental' or 'taken out of context'. The truth is that none of these individuals, Musk included, made nazi salutes but that is not what the narrative pushes and with that unfortunately also not what this here site - HN - accepts.

https://imgur.com/a/C2JsMfg (the others)

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/2PANC6Y/democratic-presidential-ho... (clinton)

r_lee · 2026-09-06T20:33:43

wow, the Taylor swift one is way worse

hagbard_c · 2026-09-06T20:50:24

Yes, and she still isn't a nazi.

ballon_monkey · 2026-09-06T19:31:31

No. They don't have eyes, because its quite clear to anyone with half a brain that it's not a nazi salute, and is no different to the same hand gesture that democrats use. It's sad the loud minority still believe calling everyone a nazi or fascist bears any weight.

r_lee · 2026-09-06T19:31:59

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ohyoutravel · 2026-09-06T19:36:28

The comment is a lie. I live in a major US city. They marched through the city in 2025 (minimally) with white face masks, red armbands with the Nazi symbol, doing Nazi salutes. Saw with my own eyes or I would have also not believed it. Absolutely shameful.

r_lee · 2026-09-06T19:37:03

Elon did?

ohyoutravel · 2026-09-06T20:11:28

As in Elon Musk? Specifically? No idea, wouldn’t be surprised, but I have no evidence that he did. But the post I’m responding to said

“No ones [sic] doing nazi salutes.”

So I didn’t read it as Elon Musk specifically. I would suggest you’re adding that in your mind and should reevaluate your fascination with him.

r_lee · 2026-09-06T20:24:10

sure that I can disagree with, there definitely are people like that, there's billions of us after all

but I'm pretty sure he was referencing Elon there, as in there's no such thing as him doing such a salute

but hey, I can't even see the original post because it was flagged, like mine is now. so that's great.

ohyoutravel · 2026-09-06T22:19:39

I do think it’s interesting that in a conversation about nazis where Elon musk hadn’t been mentioned, that’s the first place your brain goes.

You heard “Nazi” and immediately thought “Elon”. Curious.

ballon_monkey · 2026-09-07T19:26:44

Oh sorry, to catch you up on the conversation. We are talking about Twitter, and we are discussing it on HN where the uneducated like to hate on Elon.

r_lee · 2026-09-06T23:31:38

huh? that's literally the context of this thread.

how did you conclude that Elon wasn't mentioned?

Curious.

ballon_monkey · 2026-09-06T19:36:37

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r_lee · 2026-09-06T19:40:16

I'm not really on either side that much but I just don't understand this overreaction, it's literally fascism, silencing the opposition

and censoring others by painting them as nazis/Hitler

iirc your comments weren't even making any big statements, just giving out your simple opinions without even invoking any political beliefs

IMO whoever is doing that should get their flagging abilities taken away.

ballon_monkey · 2026-09-06T19:49:02

> iirc your comments weren't even making any big statements, just giving out your simple opinions without even invoking any political beliefs

Initially I did type out more, but I didn't want to turn it into an argument, so I kept its simple.

I just don't like that the left keep spouting out that elon did a nazi salute when he didn't, and his gesture is no different to anything the democrats have done. But HN is frustrating like this. You try to keep it simple and neutral. Downvoted/flagged. You voice your opinion. Downvoted/flagged.

afavour · 2026-09-06T20:10:24

You’ve said a few times that it isn’t different to anything democrats have done. Can you point to some specific examples?

ballon_monkey · 2026-09-06T21:23:02

hagbard_c replied with a bunch of examples to the initial reply to me.

r_lee · 2026-09-06T20:02:07

downvoting is expected, like on Reddit, but flagging comments like yours, that's a first for me

if people are so convinced that you and Elon are both super Nazis or something then why not show everyone what vile things you've typed here (iirc it was just "it was not a nazi salute." or something like that)