Your comment is the most surprising thing I've read the whole week. The surprise is due to the fact that you led with a statement I wholeheartedly agreed with (no, it's not okay to generalize that we're all sexist) and that set up an expectation that I would agree with the rest. Instead, you came up with a bunch of archetypal examples of why sexism is still very much a problem.
But it seems if girls are bad at anything in the computer industry, they aren't actually bad at it, it's just because they are girls and developers are sexist and will not accept them.
I don't usually like to be rude, but this particular quote deserves pointing out that you've pulled that stuff out of your ass. Go look on previous HN discussions about sexist treatment and you'll see that most of the time the women's complaints are backed by specific examples of undeniably sexist behavior, such as one of the examples from Sarah's post: "no offence, I just don’t relate to girls speaking about the industry at all, I learn better from guys."
I'm in the domain for some years and never ever saw that happening.
"Works on my machine" logic. If you haven't seen it, then it must be an exaggeration, perpetrated by all those silly lying women who can't measure up to men and conspire to be treated as equals without merit.
You think I'm laying it on too thick? Read the next quote:
Girls should just stop complaining about it for their own good.
Why, because they're crying wolf? Nobody's going to believe them if they keep doing that, right?
I'm being serious here: either you're claiming that they're lying or you're claiming they aren't but they should shut up anyway. From what I've seen in your comment, it seems to be the former, but your mistake is that you're basing it on your anecdotal experience.
Doesn't it strike you at least a little bit arrogant to claim that a whole bunch of people are lying just because you haven't personally seen any evidence of something like that happening in your own environment? I'm not talking about expressing skepticism here, you're actually implying that they're lying. Think about it.
But it seems if girls are bad at anything in the computer industry, they aren't actually bad at it, it's just because they are girls and developers are sexist and will not accept them.
I don't usually like to be rude, but this particular quote deserves pointing out that you've pulled that stuff out of your ass. Go look on previous HN discussions about sexist treatment and you'll see that most of the time the women's complaints are backed by specific examples of undeniably sexist behavior, such as one of the examples from Sarah's post: "no offence, I just don’t relate to girls speaking about the industry at all, I learn better from guys."
I'm in the domain for some years and never ever saw that happening.
"Works on my machine" logic. If you haven't seen it, then it must be an exaggeration, perpetrated by all those silly lying women who can't measure up to men and conspire to be treated as equals without merit.
You think I'm laying it on too thick? Read the next quote:
Girls should just stop complaining about it for their own good.
Why, because they're crying wolf? Nobody's going to believe them if they keep doing that, right?
I'm being serious here: either you're claiming that they're lying or you're claiming they aren't but they should shut up anyway. From what I've seen in your comment, it seems to be the former, but your mistake is that you're basing it on your anecdotal experience.
Doesn't it strike you at least a little bit arrogant to claim that a whole bunch of people are lying just because you haven't personally seen any evidence of something like that happening in your own environment? I'm not talking about expressing skepticism here, you're actually implying that they're lying. Think about it.