Not to mention numerous other western-backed offensives in recent history... Wikileaks gave us brilliant statistics on civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's important to maintain some breadth of perspective here.

I have equal distaste for Obama and Putin and I have no idea if it's the Russians or Ukranians that are right / wrong (whatever that means). They can all burn in hell.

It's not cause the West "hundreds of innocent civilians dying because …" that you need to drag hundreds of OTHER innocent people into your conflict conflict.

So you thought that Russians and Ukrainians could burn in hell and the West would just keep supporting its puppet Ukrainian government and no western people would feel it? Wrong - you reap what you sow.

The people in that plane didn't support the Ukrainian or Russian government. Believe me, very few people here understand or even care about what goes on there. Personally I support neither cause I don't understand what it's about and it's none of my business. I stay out of your business and you stay out of mine.

If you say the Western public is guilty just cause they live or cause we vote, then believe me - nobody here votes for politicians based on what their policy on the Ukraine is.

Western public didn't care and let their politicians loose. This negligence had tragic and undeserved consequences for three hundred of them. This equally applies to Russians not caring about war crimes in Chechnya.